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Educate the uneducated?
Young, cheap, smart, and motivated to learn is a great combination, if (as other people suggest) you have experienced people for them to learn from who have enough slack time to train and mentor them…
Replied 16 hours ago
Quality Center and Agile?
Well, my experience with working in an Agile environment is all of a few weeks, and thankfully we're not using QC or any of its ilk, so I haven't tried any of the suggestions here for adapting QC to…
Replied 16 hours ago
Using Trac for defect tracking
Just spotted a link to Marlena's blog from Adam Goucher. Looks like an interesting way of representing test progress, and probably a lot less prone to misunderstanding than the tendency to count tes…
Replied Aug 11
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- About Me:
- A few years ago I came into work one morning, expecting another day of application support, and someone took me aside and said: "We had a reshuffle. You're a tester now."
It turned out to be a pretty good move - I really like testing, and it would probably have taken me a lot longer to discover that otherwise. Funny how things turn out sometimes.
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- happily employed, just chillin'
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Anna Baik's Blog
Implementing a tester's playbook
Let's set the scene:
I work (currently) in a scripted shop. Lots of procedural manual test scripts, wat… Continue
Posted on June 28, 2010 at 11:14pm — 12 Comments
New Kid
Perhaps because I've recently accepted a new job offer myself, I found myself focusing on the "new job" aspect of his post, more than… Continue
Posted on June 27, 2010 at 1:22am — 3 Comments
SIGIST in London next Thursday...
Maybe I am. Would be nice to meet up with folks if there is anyone else going though!
Posted on March 5, 2010 at 11:52pm — 13 Comments
A testing playbook
Oh. What's that? I read on. And smacked my forehead. Go and read the discussion to see why. But to give some idea:
"… Continue
Posted on February 18, 2010 at 10:54pm — 3 Comments
Weekend Testers Europe: EWT01
We just wrapped up the first session of EWT01. What a great bunch of testers, that was such good fun. Many thanks to all participants, and of course to Ajay and Markus, my co-conspirators.
Keep an eye on http://weekendtesting.com/ for more info about Weekend Testing! Remember you can sign up for Bangalore/Chennai/Hyderabad sessions too, I also attended WT21 this morning so it's been a Weekend Testing packed day...
I won't say any m… Continue
Posted on January 16, 2010 at 6:40pm — 10 Comments
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- At 8:39am on October 2, 2009,
Andy Smith said… - Hi Anna. Yep, agreed.
You are absolutely right that one can get invoved in the early stages, and indeed should be involved as early as possible. I look forward with delight to the day when non-testers instinctively think so too! :-)
All the best...
Andy
- At 9:44am on September 23, 2009,
Andy Smith said…
- Hi Anna
Re the entrepreneur mindset/testers take out the garbage/figgy pudding thread:
Firstly, forums always frustrate me because its difficult to articulate an argument sometimes when you have limited wordspace. Sorry to confuse you, I guess it's the nature of medium!? :-)
As suggested, let's come away from that thread because the points we stumble on are not relevant to how to "influence entrepreneurs", which was its supposed purpose.
(However, I must say that I was quite surprised at how little response there was about that very question, because without entrepreneurs none of us would ever have been in a job...let alone a testing one!)
To address the confusion I caused, all I am asserting is that testers should not go into any start-up/embryonic organisation believing that they have a natural right to equal billing with the inventors of that company's products.
Yes I'm a tester, I'm a passionate tester, and I've often had to further the cause of testing in previously-sceptical organisations. I, like you, don't believe testers should be naturally put-upon nor expected to do menial tasks to justify their pay.
But the reality is that one of the reasons why testers often arrive later to the team than others is simply the obvious evolution of any project.
Either an inventor has a brainwave or a business-type-person identifies a commercial requirement for something. That something is then designed in their head, scribbled on paper, hmm-and-ahhed over as a business possibility, roughly costed-out...and the need for quality assurance and testing is still far away.
At some point a plan appears and an expected result can be defined. From here on in the tester can really take a major role, scoping requirements etc and doing their stuff.
In a mature corporation, one can sometimes afford to bring testers in at day-one and give them some authority to set ground rules. In a start-up especially, they will be expected to justify their value much more and that, commercially-speaking, is not a bad thing.
Are you with me so far...?
So, in summary, all I was trying to say previously was that testers need to be very very aware of the business realities when working in start-up situations. It may be unpalatable to have to muck in but, as you say, so long as everyone else does then that's probably OK.
Yet the likelihood is that the other guys in the team will be busy on their respective proper-job stuff sooner than the tester is, simply by the natural way of things. If the tester can accept that fact and pick-up possibly a disproportionate amount of the non-proper-job stuff for that crucial early phase, then soon enough their testing will begin to fill their day and their "influence" will be felt across the team.
I hope that makes some sense. If not, well let's park this for now because I suspect repeating myself over again is not going to make it any clearer! :-)
Cheers
Andy
- At 12:08am on January 14, 2009,
Jun Bueno said… - Hi Anna,
I'm new to Selenium and was a Ruby/Watir tester in the past. I recently installed Selenium RC and has recorded a simple html script using IDE. I wanted better control in the html code but I don't know how. For example, I wanted to enter a "rand()*100" number in a certain field. Do you know how to do that in HTML?
I tried generating a ruby counterpart of the html and tweaked it but I can't seem to make a ruby code run in RC (TestSuite.html). Do you know how I can call a ruby code from the TestSuite.html?
- At 8:30am on December 10, 2008,
phil kirkham said… - Great idea to start the test book reviews group. I'll be reviewing books anyway as part of a work task so no real problem for me to add a review onto here as well
Now which one to start with....
- At 10:59pm on November 14, 2008,
Rosie Sherry said… - Thanks for the blog posts on Eurostar. It's really nice to have quick updates and opinions of what goes on there.
Thumbs up from Rosie :)
- At 11:26am on September 8, 2008,
sreelaxmi said… - Hi Anna,
I am very much inteersetd in using Selenium for testing my Web application. But i have some doubts on Selenium Core and RC..?
Could u plz help me in clarifying the same...
- At 6:55pm on January 17, 2008,
Pradeep L said… - Hi Anna,
I am test analyst by profession from India and currently located in London...
Just out of curiosity wanted know what kind of testing activities u guys perform in ur project....
Regards
Pradeep
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